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CDV - 36th INDIANA INFANTRY - Image of 1st Lieut. and Adj. Zene C.
Bohrer, 36th Indiana Infantry. He enlisted on October 29, 1861 as a Sgt.
Major  into Co. E, 36th Ind. Inf. and was mustered out on October 21,
1864. The 36th fought in the battles of Shiloh, Stones River, Chickamauga,
Ringgold, Resaca, Dallas, Kennesaw Mountain and Marietta. Carte has a
later pencil ID and a Nashville photographer's back mark. There is a period
pencil inscription indicating the image was taken in May, 1863 in
Nashville. Some light smudging otherwise very good condition.
$ 185.
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$ 185.
CDV - 36th INDIANA INFANTRY - Bust image of 1st Lieut. and Adj. Zene
C. Bohrer, 36th Indiana Infantry. He enlisted on October 29, 1861 as a Sgt.
Major  into Co. E, 36th Ind. Inf. and was mustered out on October 21,
1864. The 36th fought in the battles of Shiloh, Stones River, Chickamauga,
Ringgold, Resaca, Dallas, Kennesaw Mountain and Marietta. Carte has a
later pencil ID and a 'MORSE & PEASLEE, ARMY PHOTOGRAPHER,
DEPARTMENT of the CUMBERLAND' photographer's back mark. There
is a period pencil inscription indicating the image was taken in December,
1863 in Bridgeport, Alabama. Some light smudging otherwise very good
condition.
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$ 245.
CDV - 85th INDIANA INFANTRY - Bust image of Major Robert E. Craig,
85th Indiana Infantry from Newport, Indiana. He enlisted on September 4,
1862, and was placed in Field & Staff position and also Provost Marshal in
Murfreesboro, Tn. He died of disease in Murfreesboro on April 2, 1864. The
carte is inscribed in period ink on the front 'Your Obt Servt / Robt. E.
Craig, Maj. / & Provost Marshal of / Murfreesboro, Tenn.' and on the
reverse 'To / Jos. A. Jones P.M. / Terre Haute / Indiana'. The
photographer's back mark is "Butler, Bonsall & Co. / Army Photographers
/ General Rousseau's Division'. The 85th fought in the battles of
Thompson's Station, Resaca, Dallas, Kennasaw Mountain, Atlanta as well
as others.  Some light smudging otherwise very good condition.
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$ 55.
CDV - UNIDENTIFIED LIGHT ARTILLERY CORPORAL - Full length
image of a Light Artillery Corporal carrying a light artillery sword and a
holstered pistol. Washington, D.C. Photographer. Some smudging, small
tear at bottom center which enters the albumen paper and some damage in
that area.
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$ 195.
CDV - 47th INDIANA INFANTRY - Bust image of Captain William M.
Henley, 47th Indiana Infantry. He enlisted on April 1, 1862 and was
mustered out on December 29, 1864. The 47th fought in the battles of Port
Gibson, Champion Hill, Vickburg and Jackson, Mississippi along with
Alexandria and Spanish Fort, Alabama as well as others. There is no
photographer's back mark. There is a period ink inscription on the front '
W.M. Henley / Capt. Co. I 47th Indiana'. Some light smudging and slightly
clipped corners but otherwise very good condition.
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$ 185.
CDV - 33rd ILLINOIS INFANTRY - Full standing view of Dennis E.
Dayton (probably a relative of James L. below) of the 33rd Illinois Infantry.
He enlisted on August 24, 1861 into Co. E, 33rd Ill. Inf., re-enlisted
January 1, 1864 and mustered out November 24, 1865 at Vicksburg . It is
inscribed on the reverse in period ink 'Denis E. Dayton'. The 33rd fought in
the battles of Magnolia Hills, Port Gibson, Champion's Hill, Big Black
River Bridge and Vickburg, Mississippi. Carte has a Princeton, Illinois
photographer's back mark. Carte is in very good condition.
I-420
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$ 235.
CDV - 13th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY - WIA - ANTIETAM - Bust
image of William B. Barron, 13th Massachusetts Infantry - Boston, Mass.
He enlisted on June 29, 1861 and was discharged on November 25, 1862
due to wounds received at Antietam on September 17, 1862. There is a great
13th Regiment Mass. Vol. photographer's back mark. There is a period ink
inscription on the front ' Yours Truly / Wm B. Barron / Co. F  13th Regt'.
Some light staining and smudges on mount along with very light contrast
& fading on the image.
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$ 290.
TINTYPE - UNION SERGEANT - FREDERICK, MD - a hair under
1/6 plate size tintype of a Union Sergeant with slight tinting to his
cheeks. There is a card under the image - an 1858 card for the
Frederick County Agricultural Society with period ink writing on the
reverse "Frederick MD / Jan 29, 62" and in period pencil "Rec
Thursday Feb. 6th / from my husband". Unfortunately no ID. Looks
to have a rain cover on his kepi. Image is a little dark but not bad, a
few small minor spots on the image, has a full case but spine is
detached. The light line near his collar is a reflection and not in the
image.
I-425
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$ 325.
AMBROTYPE - ID AS CHARLES STONE 47TH & 59TH MASS INF
- 1/9 plate size ambrotype of a Union soldier seated wearing a frock
coat with slight tinting to his cheeks. Under the image written in a
more modern pencil is " Prv Charles Stone / Co. E 47 Mass". He is
listed as serving in the 47th Mass. Inf. from September, 1862 to
September, 1863 and in the 59th Mass. fromJanuary, 1864 to May,
1865 then in the VRC until August, 1865. He is also listed as wounded
in action at Petersburg on 6/17/1864. I had no reason to doubt the ID
but always would like to see that nice period ink instead of later
pencil. Has a full case that has the spine repaired with black tape (and
a very nice job), The light line from shoulder to shoulder is actually a
reflection and is not in the image.
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TINTYPE OF 3 UNION SOLDIERS - 1/6 plate size tintype of three
Union soldiers seated and wearing frock coats, all with kepis. Ever so
light blue tinting to the trousers and with slight tinting to their cheeks.
Don't know if they're brothers but more than likely close friends as
they each are holding hands with hands also on the shoulders. Has a
full case but original spine is weak. The light line about chin height is
a reflection and not in the image An image out of the ordinary.
SOLD
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$ 495.
TINTYPE OF UNION SOLDIER - HARDEE HAT - PATRIOTIC
UNION CASE
- 1/6 plate size tintype of a Union soldier wearing a
Hardee hat (of course Iron Brigade comes to mind), can see the
infantry bugle and the Company letter 'G'. Just a tad dark but nice
looking image. Patriotic Union (gutta percha) case with eagle, flag,
etc. Just a few nicks on edges and slightly loose hinge but otherwise in
very good condition.
I-429
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CDV - 38th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY - WIA - Image of 1st Lieut.
George Briggs Russell with a New Orleans photographer's back mark. He
enlisted on August 12, 1862 and served after the War in the US service until
1898. He rose through the ranks to Brevet Lt. Colonel by the end of the War
and was wounded in June, 1863 at Port Hudson, La., after which he served
in the VRC. The 38th fought in both theatres of the War and participated in
the battles of Port Hudson, La.,  Brashear City, La., Winchester, Va., Cedar
Creek, Va. and Fisher's Hill, Va., among others. Signed in period ink on
reverse "G.B. Russell / 1st Lieut. 38th Mass". Very good condition.
$ 245.
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CDV - 22nd & 38th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY - WIA - Image of 1st
Lieut. Frank N. Scott with what I believe is a Boston photographer's back
mark. He enlisted on September 6, 1861 and resigned August 22, 1864. He
was wounded in July, 1862 at Malvern Hill, Va as a member of the 22nd
Mass. and on August 23, 1862 was discharged for Promotion as an officer
in the 38th. The 38th fought in both theatres of the War and participated in
the battles of Port Hudson, La.,  Brashear City, La., Winchester, Va., Cedar
Creek, Va. and Fisher's Hill, Va., among others. Signed in period ink on
reverse "Frank N. Scott / 1st Lieut. Co. B / 38th Mass Regt". Very good
condition.
$ 265.
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CDV - 1st & 38th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY - WIA - Image of 2nd
Lieut. William H. Jewell. No photographer's back mark. He enlisted in
May, 1861 into the 1st Mass. Inf. then in August, 1862 commissioned into
the 38th and mustered out in June, 1865. He was wounded in October,
1864 at Cedar Creek, Va.  The 38th fought in both theatres of the War and
participated in the battles of Port Hudson, La.,  Brashear City, La.,
Winchester, Va., Cedar Creek, Va. and Fisher's Hill, Va., among others.
Signed in period ink on reverse "W.H. Jewell / 2nd Lieut. Co. A / 38th Regt
Mass Vols". Very good condition with light stain on reverse.
$ 265.
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CDV - ASST. SURGEON - 38th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY & 1st
MASS. BATT. CAVALRY
- Image of Assistant Surgeon George F.
Thomson. No photographer's back mark. He enlisted in August, 1862 into
the 38th as Asst. Surgeon and in 1865 became Surgeon of the 1st Mass.
Battn Cavalry. He mustered out in June, 1865. The 38th fought in both
theatres of the War and participated in the battles of Port Hudson, La.,  
Brashear City, La., Winchester, Va., Cedar Creek, Va. and Fisher's Hill,
Va., among others. Signed in period ink on reverse "Geo. F. Thomson /
Assist. Surgeon / 38th Mass Vols". Very good condition.
$ 245.
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CDV - 3rd & 38th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY - WIA - Major James
Prentiss Richardson. New Orleans photographer's back mark. He enlisted in
April, 1861 into the 3rd Mass. Inf. then in August, 1862 commissioned into
the 38th and mustered out in June, 1865. He was severely wounded in
September 19, 1864 at Winchester, Va.  The 38th fought in both theatres of
the War and participated in the battles of Port Hudson, La.,  Brashear City,
La., Winchester, Va., Cedar Creek, Va. and Fisher's Hill, Va., among
others. Signed in period ink on reverse "J.P. Richardson / Major 38th
Mass". Very good condition with light smudge on reverse.
$ 245.
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CDV - 38th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY - WIA - Lieut. Timothy
Ingraham, Jr.. No photographer's back mark. He enlisted in April, 1861
into the 3rd Mass. Inf. then in August, 1862 as Sgt. Major and mustered
out in July, 1865. He was wounded on April 13, 1864 at Snaggy Point, Red
River, La.  The 38th fought in both theatres of the War and participated in
the battles of Port Hudson, La.,  Brashear City, La., Winchester, Va., Cedar
Creek, Va. and Fisher's Hill, Va., among others. Signed in period ink on
reverse "Lieut. T. Ingraham / Co D 38th Mass". Very good condition with
light stains on reverse.
$ 245.
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CDV - 27th ILLINOIS INFANTRY - KIA - STONES RIVER - Image of
Colonel Fazillo A. Harrington of the 27th Illinois Infantry. There is a
Nashville, Tn. photographer's stamp on the reverse. Harrington enlisted in
April, 1862 and died of wounds received at Stones River, Tn. on January 1,
1863. Image is ID'd from an identical image in the Civil War Data Base.
Good condition but light in some areas.
$ 265.
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CDV - CHAPLAIN - 8th NEW HAMPSHIRE INFANTRY - Chaplain
Daniel P. Cilley of the 8th New Hampshire Infantry. Boston, Mass.
photographer's back mark. He enlisted in December, 1861 as Chaplain and
mustered out in January, 1865. His jacket shows the dark shoulder strap.
The 8th participated in the battles of Bisland, La., Port Hudson, La., Baton
Rouge, La., Sabine Cross Roads, La., Alexandria, La. and numerous
others. Signed in period ink on reverse "Respects of D.P. Cilley / Chaplain
8th NH / Natchez Jan. 10, 1865". Very good condition with trimmed
corners.
SOLD
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CDV - STEPHEN DOUGLAS - Famous for his pro-slavery stance and his
debates with Abraham Lincoln. Democratic Presidential candidate running
against Lincoln. E. & H.T. Anthony, New York back mark. Has a blemish
to the right of his head which seems to be in the photographic plate and not
in the CDV itself. Very good condition.
$ 165.
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CDV - 19th CONNECTICUT INFANTRY - KIA - Image of Luman
Wadhams of the 19th Connecticut Infantry. There is no photographer's
back mark on the reverse. Wadhams enlisted in August, 1862 and died on
June 3, 1864 of wounds received at Cold Harbor, Va. Image has a period
pencil ID on reverse "Lieut. Wadhams of Co. A / 19th Conn. Regt. 1863 /
He was promoted to / Capt / wounded at Cold Har / bor on Wednesday June
1st / Died June 1864". Good condition but some smudging (perhaps water)
on the right border.
I-440
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CDV - 19th CONNECTICUT INFANTRY - KIA - Image of Elisha S.
Kellogg of the 19th Connecticut Infantry. There is no photographer's back
mark on the reverse. Kellogg enlisted in August, 1862 and was killed on
June 1, 1864 at Cold Harbor, Va. Image has a period pencil ID on reverse
"Lieut. Col. Kellogg / 19th Conn. V. 1863 / Promoted to (to) sic Col.". Very
good condition.
$ 275.
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CDV - 19th CONNECTICUT INFANTRY / 2nd CONN. HEAVY ART. -
Image of Eben L. Oakes of the 19th Connecticut Infantry / 2nd Connecticut
Heavy Artillery. There is an Alexandria, Va. photographer's back mark on
the reverse. Oakes enlisted in July, 1862 and was mustered out July, 1865.
Image has a period pencil ID on reverse "Age 21 1863 / Oben L. Oakes /
Company A 2nd C.V.A.". Nice armed shot. Very good condition.
$ 235.
SOLD
SOLD
SOLD
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CDV - 38th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY - WIA - 2nd Lieut. Vivian K.
Spear. No photographer's back mark. He enlisted in August, 1862 into the  
38th and was discharged in November, 1863. He was wounded on June 14,
1863 at Port Hudson, La.  The 38th fought in both theatres of the War and
participated in the battles of Port Hudson, La.,  Brashear City, La.,
Winchester, Va., Cedar Creek, Va. and Fisher's Hill, Va., among others.
Signed in period ink on reverse "V.K. Spear / 2nd Lieut. 38th Mass Vols".
Good condition with light contrast on the image.
$ 265.
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CDV - 38th MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY - Capt. J. Henry Wyman. No
photographer's back mark. He enlisted in August, 1862 into the  38th and
was discharged for disability in October, 1864. Nice shot cradling his sword
in his arms. The 38th fought in both theatres of the War and participated in
the battles of Port Hudson, La.,  Brashear City, La., Winchester, Va., Cedar
Creek, Va. and Fisher's Hill, Va., among others. Signed in period ink on
reverse "J.H. Wyman / Capt. Co. B / 38th M Vol". Good condition with
good contrast on the image.
$ 245.
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CDV - CONFEDERATE QUAKER GUNS AT CENTREVILLE -
This shot is by Mathew Brady in 1862 of the "Fortifications on
the Heights of Centreville" and designated as No. 300 in Brady's
Album Gallery. On the front in period ink is 'Lee Rebs Wooden
Guns'. These fake cannon gave Lee extra time to evacuate the
fortifications, while making McClellan think they were stronly
defended. Carte does have several nicks on the edges.
$ 275.
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CDV - THE SULTANA - TAKEN 19 HOURS BEFORE
EXPLOSION
- Parker's City Gallery, Cairo, Ill back mark with
tax stamp. This photograph, taken while docked in Memphis just
19 hours before the explosion that took just under 1200 lives. The
Sultana was carrying ex-POW's back from southern prisons in
April, 1865. It was designed to carry less than 400 people yet it was
loaded with 2,300 Union POW's heading home to the north.
Seven miles upriver on April 27, 1865 the Sultana would explode,
killing so many that had gone through so much to outlast the
War. Image is in very good condition and rarely seen for sale.
$ 475.
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CDV - ELMIRA PRISON CAMP - ELMIRA, NY - Moulton &
Larkin, Elmira, NY back mark with tax stamp. This photograph,
taken from an elevated position to show over the stockade and into
the camp showing the masses of Confederate prisoners and the
Union guards on the stockade walls. The prison was only in
existence from July, 1864 to July, 1865 and housed approximately
12, 100 prisoners of which 2,970 died while in captivity, mainly
from disease. It was dubbed by the prisoners "Hellmira". Carte
does have several minor issues, a nick on the edge of the mount
and a few small wrinkles on the albumen paper, otherwise very
nice.
$ 485.
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CDV - TENNESSEE STATE CAPITOL BUILDING IN
NASHVILLE
- Morse's Gallery of the Cumberland, Nashville
back mark with tax stamp. This well known photograph, taken of
the Capitol Building on the hill in Nashville, which if you have
ever been there appears to be the highest elevation in the city
proper. There are similar views that show troops and tents on the
grounds but this appears to have been taken after the troops left,
as there are what looks like boxes strewn throughout the grounds.
$ 295.
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CDV - IDENTIFIED PLANTATION VIEW - No Photographer's
back mark. This is an image with subject matter that few have the
opportunity to obtain. They are rarely offered for sale. This is a
view of a Plantation grounds with over 50 slaves (to my count)
and what looks like perhaps 3 soldiers (one slave appears to be
wearing a kepi). There is a very faint ID in period pencil on the
reverse which looks to be either "Bucland (or Bulland) Plantation
/ 1864". On the 'Additional Images' page I have experimented
with contrast adjustments on the scans to try and draw out better
clarity - you may decide for yourself. There was a well known
North Carolina Plantation known as 'Buckland' but of course
without something better in the image to compare, it is tough to
say for certain.
$ 1,250.
SOLD
SOLD
ALBUMEN - 150TH NEW YORK INFANTRY - WIA - Beautiful
8 3/8" x 10" mount with albumen of Lt. Charles P. Barlow, ID'd
in period ink around perimeter of image. Barlow was in the 150th
from Sept., 1862 to June, 1865. He was wounded in action on
July 20, 1864 at Peach Tree Creek, Georgia. The 150th NY was a
also good Gettysburg Regiment. Very good large format image
with only light scuffing on mount.
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$ 325.
ALBUMEN - 150TH NEW YORK INFANTRY - WIA - Beautiful
8 3/8" x 10" mount with albumen of Lt. William H. Bartlett,
ID'd in period ink around perimeter of image. Bartlett was in the
150th from Sept., 1862 to June, 1865. He was wounded in action
on June 22, 1864 at Culp's Farm, Georgia. The 150th NY was
also a good Gettysburg Regiment. Very good large format image
with only light scuffing on mount.
I-450
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$ 325.
TINTYPE - WHITE & BLACK(?) WOMEN WITH AN
INTERESTING RELATIONSHIP
- Crisp tintype of the two
women and a strange note in a somewhat ominous tone, behind
the image in the case. The note is dated August, 1861 and it looks
like the image was taken in 1859. In the best of my transcribing it
reads: "Louisa, When shall we meet again? Changes must need
be in that I fear changes unlooked for, dark - sorrowful.
Whatever, wherever I may be live thou true to thy womanhood,
thy friend and thy God / M Alice G / Aug 1861 / Hyde Park
1859". Could this be in reference to the beginning of War,
Friendship between races / is slavery implied? Interesting to say
the least! Unfortunately the case is damaged and cover detached
but the note is fine and image near perfect. More shown in
'Additional Images' link.
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$ 345.
CDVs - 4TH MICHIGAN CAVALRY - 2 CARTES - Image of
Lewis B. Hopkins from Flushing, Mi. Louisville, Ky.
photographer's back mark - signed and dated 1864 in period
pencil. Along with this is the mount for a R.M. Linn of Gallery
Point Lookout - Lookout Mountain, 1864. Looks as though
Hopkins liked the card and somehow obtained one. He made
comments on the card in period pencil: "Chattanooga, Tenn
June 3d, 1865", "Liberty & Union", "O isant that a pretty flag",
"Lewis B. Hopkins". On the opposite side probably written by a
relative: "Chattanooga, Tennessee June 3rd 1865 Brought from
Lookout Mountain by L.B. Hopkins when a soldier in the 4th
Mich Cavalry Co. H". Hopkins enlisted in the 4th on January
4th, 1864 and was discharged on August 15, 1865.
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CDVs - 1ST MICHIGAN LIGHT ARTILLERY (13TH BATTERY) - Image
of Erastus Tower - Washington, DC photographer's back mark - signed  in
period ink. Tower enlisted on August 29, 1864 and was mustered out on
July 1, 1865. During Tower's time in the battery he was mainly stationed in
various forts in the DC area. In 1865 they were in Maryland as mounted
cavalry chasing down guerrillas and after the assassination of Lincoln, the
battery, still acting as cavalry patrolled roads in the Dc area and assisted in
the capturing of two conspirators - Harold and Mudd.  
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$ 200.
AMBROTYPE - HOSPITAL STEWARD - 1/6 plate ambrotype
image of a hospital steward. Full standing view showing both
unmistakable arm bands although the medical caduceus symbol
is not seen due to the angle. Steward is wearing an extremely
large bow tie. Full case with original hinge still intact. Additional
images show that the image has been up against this mat for the
full term as the image is 'oxidized' out under the mat. Good
condition but a tad dark on contrast.
I-454
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$ 325.
GENERAL NELSON MILES RECEIVED GOLD
SWORD FROM ARIZONA TERRITORY
- approx. 5
1/8" x 8 3/8" (mount) albumen showing the
ceremony in Tucson, Arizona Territory on November
8, 1887 when the Territory presented General Miles
with a gold sword "In grateful recognition of his
distinguished services in the subjugation and
removal of the hostile Apaches under the
Blood-thirsty Geronimo". Photo is by Willis P.
Haynes, Tucson, A.T. Unfortunately the image does
have some brown spotting as can be seen in the
photos - as though at one time something had
dripped on the image and stained it. If you happen to
have that sword in your collection - this is a must.
I-455
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$ 168.
CDV - CONFEDERATE GENERAL JOHN BELL HOOD - No
photographer's back mark. Hood was involved in many of the major battles
during the War; Second Manassas, Antietam, Fredericksburg, Gettysburg
(severely wounded in arm), Chickamauga (lost leg), Peach Tree Creek,
Atlanta, Franklin, Nashville among others. Led the famed Hood's Texas
Brigade. Good condition, has some scuffing on mount under the albumen
paper.
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$ 265.
SOLD
CDV - NAVAL ACADEMY - JAMES KELSEY COGSWELL - US Naval
Academy Photographer's B/M of Chase & Bachrach. Cogswell was from
Wisconsin, a Midshipman September, 1863 and graduated in 1868. Became
an Ensign in 1869, Master in 1870 and Lieutenant in 1874. Signed in
period ink on front "Jas. K. Cogswell / Wisconsin". Fading to image.
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$ 78.
CDV - NAVAL ACADEMY - EDWARD K. MOORE - US Naval Academy
Photographer's B/M of Chase & Bachrach. Cogswell was from Ohio, a
Midshipman October, 1864 and graduated in 1868. Became a Lieutenant in
1873. Signed in period ink on front " E.K. Moore / Ohio". Fading to image.
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$ 78.
CDV - RIVERBOAT SCENE - No Photographer's B/M. Unknown
location post-War image showing steamboat at dock in what
appears to be a more remote docking location than in the middle
of a town or busier area with only a few buildings in the area but
does show other sailboats in the water.
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$ 90.
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$ 365.
CDV - JEFF DAVIS - PRESIDENT - CHARLESTON, SC - One of the
more interesting CDVs that I've seen lately. Image of Jefferson Davis on a
seal type setting - looks to have been made for mass production though I've
never seen another. Davis is surrounded by stars and surrounding that is
written, "The Right Man, In The Right Place / Our First President". The
photographer's back mark is "Quinby & Co. / Charleston, SC". The bottom
has been trimmed off and there is some staining as can be seen in the
'Additional Images' link. Contrast is a bit light. Condition isn't there but the
content is.